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文章raf » 12日 6月 2003年, 03:27

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文章Alfred Leung » 12日 6月 2003年, 15:22

Here is a transcript:"

Architect: hello Neo.

Neo: Who are you?

Architect: I am the Architect. I created the Matrix I've been waiting for you.
You have many questions, and though the process has altered your consciousness you remain irrevocably human ergo some of my answers you will understand, and some of them you will not. Concordantly, while your first question may be the most pertinent, you may or may not realize it is also the most irrelevant.

Neo: Why am I here?

Architect: Your life is the sum of a remainder of an unbalanced equation inherent to the programming of the matrix. You are the eventuality of an anomaly which despite my sincerest efforts I have been unable to eliminate from what is otherwise a harmony of mathematical precision. While it remains a burden asciduously avoided it is not unexpected, and thus not beyond a measure of control. Which has led you inexorably....here

Neo: You haven't answered my question.

Architect: Quite right. Interesting...that was quicker than the others.

(TV Neos: Others [how many others?] what others? answer my question!)

Architect: The matrix is older than you know. I prefer counting from the emergence of one integral anomaly to the emergence of the next, in which case this is the 6th version.

(Tv Neos: 5 ones before me? 4...3..2.. what are you talking about? There are only 2 possible explanations, either no one told me....)

Neo: ...or no one knows.

Architect: Precisely. As you are undoubtedly gathering, the anomaly is systemic--creating fluctuations in even the most simplistic equations.

(Tv Neos: You can't contol me! I'm gonna smash the wall I'll fuckin kill you! etc..)

Neo: Choice. The problem is choice.

Cut to Trinity vs Agent.

Architect: The first Matrix I designed was quite naturally perfect. It was a work of art...flawless, sublime. And triumphed equally only by its monumental failure. The inevitability of its doom is apparent to me now as a consequence of the imperfection inherent in every human being. Thus. I redesigned it based on your history to more accurately reflect the varying grotesqueries of your nature. However, I was again frustrated by failure. I have since come to understand that the answer eluded me because it required a lesser mind, or perhaps a mind less bound by the parameters of perfection. Thus the answer was stumbled upon by another--An intuitive program, initially created to investigate certain aspects of the human psyche. If I am the father of the matrix, she would undoubtedly be its Mother.

Neo: The Oracle.

Architect: Please (sarcastic). As I was saying, she stumbled upon a solution whereby nearly 99% of all test subjects accepted the program, as long as they were given a choice...even if they were only aware of the choice at a near unconscious level. While this answer functioned, it was obviously fundamentally flawed, thus creating the otherwise contradictory systemic anomaly that if left unchecked might threaten the system itself. Ergo those that refused the program, while a minority, if unchecked would constitute an escalating probability of disaster.

Neo: This is about Zion.

Architect: You are here because Zion is about to be destroyed--its every living inhabitant terminated, its entire existence eradicated.

Neo: Bullshit

(TV Neos: Bullshit! Bullshit! Bullshit!)

Architect: Denial is the most predictable of all human responses, but rest assured...this will be the 6th time we have destroyed it, and we have become exceedingly efficient at it.

Cut to Trinity vs Agent

Architect: The function of the One is now to return to the Source, allowing a temporary dissemination of the code you cary, reinserting the prime program. After which, you will be required to select from the matrix 23 individuals--16 females, 7 male--to rebuild Zion. Failure to comply with this process will result in a cataclysmic system crash, killing everyone connected to the Matrix, which coupled with the extermination of Zion will ultimately result in the extinction of the entire human race.

Neo: You won't let it happen. You can't. You need human beings to survive.

Architect: There are levels of survival we are prepared to accept. However the relevant issue is whether or not you are ready to accept the responsibility of the death of every human being on this world. It is interesting reading your reactions. Your 5 predecessors were, by design, based on a similar predication--a contingent affirmation that was meant to create a profound attachment to the rest of your species, facilitating the function of the One. While the others experienced this in a very general way, your experience is far more specific--vis a vis..love.

Neo: Trinity.

Architect: Appropos, she entered the matrix to save your life, at the cost of her own.

Neo: No...

Architect: Which brings us at last to the moment of truth, wherein the fundamental flaw is ultimately expressed, and the anomaly revealed as both beginning and end. There are two doors. The door to your right leads to the Source, and the salvation of Zion. The door to your left leads back to the matrix, to her and to the end of your Species. As you adequately put, the problem is choice. But we already know what you are going to do, don't we? Already, I can see the chain-reaction--the chemical precursors that signal the onset of an emotion, designed specifically to overwhelm logic and reason--an emotion that is already blinding you from the simple and obvious truth...she is going to die, and there is nothing you can do to stop it.

Architect: Hope. It is the quintessential human delusion, simultaneously the source of your greatest strength and your greatest weakness.

Neo: If I were you, I would hope that we don't meet again.

Architect: We won't.

Neo exits out of the left door.

So what the hell was going on at the end of The Matrix Reloaded?

There is no spoon.

. No, really, what the hell was going on at the end?

Everybody’s been played. EVERYBODY. Neo’s not the One. Morpheus is a sucker. There is no One. There is no Zion. They’re all still in the Matrix.

. Do WHAT?

The machines knew their Matrix scam could not last forever; 99.9 percent of the human population would accept it, but that last margin would pose a problem. So they built a false escape route — Zion. Zion is a big game within the Matrix. It exists solely to give the rebellious types the ILLUSION of rebellion, fighting back without actually doing so.

In the same manner, the Prophecy and Neo’s existence as “the One” is largely a smokescreen to give hope to guys like Morpheus and keep them off track. Neo is, in truth, a focus of anomalies and glitches in the Matrix. The Architect knows about these glitches; he can’t stop them, but he can isolate them into one spot. Once these glitches get too big and powerful, as Neo has, it’s time to hit the Universal Reset Button.

According to the Architect at the end (using many big words to explain simple ideas) they’ve rebooted the Matrix six times, and destroyed Zion each time. Every time, the One is sent back in reincarnated form along with 23 others of his choosing. (Remember the Oracle’s room in the first movie? There were many other “potential” Ones. Most likely these are among the 23 from the last time around.) Neo chose a different route than previous Ones, opting to save Trinity. How this will play out is anybody’s guess.

On the other hand, we have no actual reason to believe a word the Architect is saying. Somebody’s definitely lying. It could be that everybody is lying.

Another crucial hint: Neo, at the end, was able to affect reality around him in the “real world.” This is an ability that can’t be explained any other way except to realize that he’s still in the Matrix. Morpheus seems to realize this at the very end.

. So all this running around in the real world they’ve been doing is fake. They’re all still in their pods?

Yes. If, indeed, those pods actually exist. Everything Morpheus told Neo in the first movie is now suspect. We have no idea what the machines are really doing or what humanity’s true role is.

. So the Oracle, she’s the Mother of the Matrix, right?

Not necessarily. NEO said the Oracle was the Mother, and the Architect didn’t correct him. The Oracle pulled the same trick on Neo last time; she never actually told him he wasn’t the One.

. So what’s up with Agent Smith?

Beats me. Best guess is that he’s become a virus of some kind after Neo’s rewriting of his code last time around. And like any good virus his basic prerogative is to use up all available resources to make copies of himself. He’s a definite wild card. Consider this: If not for Agent Smith’s timely intervention in the Hall of Doors, Neo would have reached the door too early and everybody would have died. Smith’s action benefited both Neo and the Architect. There’s more to this than we know.

. By the way, what’s a Merovingian?

A dynasty of French kings who claimed to be directly descended from Jesus. Chew on THAT bit for a while. Incidentally, Persephone is the daughter of the goddess Demeter, who was forced to spend half her life at the side of the lord of the underworld.

. So what else do we know for sure?

All we know for sure is that everything we know so far is wrong.

Neo is not human. He is a program.

Not only is this a good excuse for Keanu Reeves' robotic performance, but it explains a lot. The Architect says to him:

Your life is the sum of a remainder of an unbalanced equation inherent in the programming of the matrix. You are the eventuality of an anomaly which despite my sincerest efforts I have been unable to eliminate from what is otherwise a harmony of mathematical precision. While it remains a burden deciduously avoided it is not unexpected and thus not beyond a measure of control.

Neo's "life" is the result of programming problems. He has free will, but he is still guided by the program of the Matrix. Other programs exist in the Matrix to keep him moving towards his reason for existing.

What is his purpose? To help understand human nature and thus more effectively control it. We learn that there were five "One"s before Neo. Each time, they attempted to learn what was needed to keep everyone happy, thus maintaining the symbiotic relationship between man and machine to insure the survival of both.

Morpheus talks about the first "One" in The Matrix:

When the Matrix was first built, there was a man born inside who had the ability to change whatever he wanted, to remake the Matrix as he saw fit. It was he who freed the first of us, taught us the truth. As long as the Matrix exists the human race will never be free.

That person was a program. And the Masked Reviewer believes that program appears in The Matrix Reloaded as...the Merovingian. But how could he free anyone if he was born inside? Neo had to be rescued by other people, picked up in a ship, and healed. Unless...

The "real world" outside the Matrix is not real. It is another virtual world, linked to the Matrix.

The Masked Reviewer believes the strongest evidence for this is that at the end of Reloaded, when Neo is able to affect the squid robots in Zion using powers similar to what he has in the Matrix. First he can "sense" them, then he can destroy them. He was programmed to be flexible and grow, but not intended to be aware that Zion is also virtual reality.

Also, there is a human who is "infected" by Agent Smith, who is lying unconscious on a table next to Neo at the end of Reloaded. Perhaps this person is a program, like the Agents in the Matrix, who has been infected by Smith's virus. If not, what mechanism would allow Smith to control him?

"Everything happens for a reason." This is spoken just as, in the end of Reloaded, a gangplank breaks as a crewman runs in his ship in Zion. That "random event" allowed the chain of events that Neo dreamed about to happen. The computer was only able to force that chain of events by controlling both worlds.

Items have been passed from the virtual world to the real world, such as a cartridge given in an envelope to be delivered to Neo in Reloaded. Though there may be another explanation for this, the most logical is that they are both virtual worlds controlled by the same computer.

And, of course, the Oracle seems to have a knowledge of what happens both in the "real world" of Zion and the virtual world of the Matrix.

There are some visual clues, such as the color coding: everything in the Matrix is tinted green, everything in Zion is tinted blue. Perhaps we will see the real world in Revolutions, with normal colors?

Remember Plato's cave? The real world is the cave. Perhaps there is no reality outside of the Matrix? At least, no habitable reality. We learned in The Matrix that the humans scorched the sky to stop the machines. How do the humans survive? How do they grow food? Now the machines and humans are dependent on each other, and all that is left for the humans is the Matrix and Zion.

The purpose of the second virtual reality is to give the people who reject the Matrix (according to the Architecht in Reloaded, it's about 1% of people) a place to go.

Humans need at least the illusion of free will, or they will revolt ("The humans are revolting!" "I know, they smell bad too"). Thus a place was created for this 1% of people to go.

The agents exist to keep too many people from going to Zion; the system will become unbalanced if too many people go there.

The agents are programs that don't know that Zion is a 2nd virtual reality. They don't need to. Just like real computers, not every program knows what every other program is doing. Agents exist to stop too many people from being transferred to Zion. Neo exists to improve the parameters of control. The Oracle exists to keep Neo in line.

Neo's program is altered through his mouth.

Remember the woman who was affected by the cake that the Merovingian gave her in Reloaded? She ate the cake, she changed. How did Neo leave the Matrix in the first film? He swallowed a pill. Why did Persephone kiss him in Reloaded? She wanted to download information from him. How about the Oracle? Did you notice that whenever they meet, she gives him something to eat? In The Matrix, she gives him a cookie and tells him that by the time he finishes the cookie, he'll feel better. Hmm. The Oracle is also a program. Her job is to keep Neo on track...because he is the product of several efforts to perfectly emulate and understand humanity, he is hard to control, and thus she guides him. And when he's too far off course, she alters his program. She also gives him candy in Reloaded.

What information did Persephone want? She is the one referred to by the Architecht as "the mother of the Matrix". Her job is to understand the emotions of humans. She is also a program.

The Merovingian is the first "One".

After freeing the first minds into the "real world" of Zion, the Merovingian was integrated into the code of the Matrix. How would a human mind become part of a program? He must be a program himself. What he learned about humanity and love was downloaded to Persephone through their kiss. That is why Persephone will only help Neo if she kisses him, just like Neo kisses Trinity. She wants to experience it, to download it, because that's her purpose.

There are many programs hiding as humans in the Matrix and in Zion.

Neo, the Oracle, Merovingian, and Persephone. But...how about Morpheus? How about Niobe? Morpheus is single-minded in his quest to find "The One". The system would want to dedicate a program to finding the next one and guiding him. As the Architecht mentioned, he is not beyond control. Morpheus is a religious figure, providing hope and stability to the people of Zion. It seems logical that the computer would want him. Also, he does speak in a manner very similar to Agent Smith. Morpheus and Niobe aren't aware of the fact that they're programs. And Trinity? She's probably human...but an argument could be made against that, too.

Perhaps Morpheus was an earlier One? Where are the rest of the Ones?

Neo's main purpose is to help the computer understand the nature of love. This is so that the computer can better facilitate control over people.

It's a love story. Neo is fascinated with Trinity from the first moment. The first Matrix failed because it was "too perfect". To be real, one of the elements that the machines must understand is love.

The difference in this iteration of the Matrix is that Agent Smith has developed a bug in which his code has merged with Neo's, producing a virus.

He replicates himself. He infected a program in Zion, spreading there as well (the guy lying next to Neo on the table at the end of Reloaded who cut his hand and sabotaged things). The only one who can prevent a cataclysmic crash which will destroy the Matrix and Zion will be Neo. "Revolutions" refers to both a revolution against the system (by both man and computer intelligence as well as the revolution of the process, the constant turning of the giant wheel. Revolution: revolt. Humans provide power. Voltage. Re-volt. Okay, that's nonsense.

The Masked Reviewer predicts that The Matrix: Revolutions will be a huge blockbuster. The Masked Reviewer isn't afraid to go out on a limb. In the end, Neo will destroy the virus Smith, but no one will be freed. No one but Neo, Morpheus, and Trinity will know that everything is an illusion. Thus, the trilogy will end with humanity saved from the threat of Smith's virus destroying everyone, but no one actually being free. And, the possibility of future Matrix films will be left wide open.
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