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Can anyone suggest a guide book of Pixar Renderman?

文章Maya初仔 » 21日 6月 2002年, 01:17

:oops: Cos, i can't load the online manual here!! i tried many times.....Cos, i don't know how to use this SWare !!!! :oops:
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文章Wolf » 21日 6月 2002年, 01:48

The standard textbook to start on is "Renderman Companion" by Steve Upstill. But I must warn you Renderman is a difficult subject to learn on your own. If you hate maths, I would advice you to not even start... but then again, computer artists should not hate maths :-)
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文章tdk » 21日 6月 2002年, 11:36

I have " advanced renderman ", if you have some programming background, some physics knowledge, it's quite easy to follow (ok, "easy" is a relative terms).

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/ ... 83-4148943
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文章Wolf » 21日 6月 2002年, 12:29

TDK, I think you may have misread AR - it's content is devoted almost entirely to discussing visual tricks (or what Jim Blinn once fondly called The Art of Chi'ting) in the Renderman environment. There's minimal discussion about physics. Also, none of the shading examples in the book is "physically correct". It's a very enjoyable - and pretty - book to read, that's for sure, but I really wouldn't recommend it to novices.

Maya初仔, trust me, if you're serious about learning this software system, get Steve Upstill's book (which many people say is outdated - don't believe them!). Leave AR til the end.
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文章tdk » 21日 6月 2002年, 14:02

I'm not MISREAD, I'm just didn't read :) he he......

except the intro and a few pages ( I hope I can finish it someday) :lol:

Listen to wolf, I'm really not a renderman expert :lol:
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文章Maya初仔 » 22日 6月 2002年, 00:34

Many ths u all!!! i can tell u i really hate Maths when i was child......But i will learn it cos i really interest about it!! i will try to learn.......just try my best! :oops: Cos, all my friends are not in this field or interest about it! So, i don't have any method to ask anyone help! So, many tks u all again!
Re>TDK many ths!! i think advanced is too "deep" to me la....
Re>Wolf Tks u too! i think this book is more suitable to me! Cos, i really really 初仔......than u thought......
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文章zaptos » 22日 6月 2002年, 11:37

Advanced Renderman is more enjoyable, but u may not really know what renderman is.
Renderman Companion is dull and full of maths and programming language, but u can understand the principle if u really eager to master it.
And ask yourself whether you want to give much of ur effort and time in shader programming. It is not an easy road.......
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文章Maya初仔 » 22日 6月 2002年, 12:58

:o Oh...............
Which one i should buy........
"Advanced Renderman" is more enjoyable....
"Renderman Companion" is good for 初仔..... :(
i just want to how to use it in the mean time..................!! i don't want to be a master of it!! So, what should i buy........
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文章zaptos » 22日 6月 2002年, 15:24

Little Maya,
If u are not going to learn how to write shader in Renderman, I advise u to save money for these 2 books. They will not tell u how to use renderman.
Just learning how to apply MTOR in your Maya may reach ur goal. Some day when u really want to write shaders for urself, then go to buy them both.
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文章Bigeye » 23日 6月 2002年, 09:25

:roll: Hi little Maya,

I know that Renderman might difficult for you to understanding. In my opinion, keep attention in your lesson.Try to understand how to use Math for creating. In CEC tutor, it shows all basic theory. Don't mind to ask a lot of questions to your teacher. Do it repeat and repeat... You will understand what's that mean. Then, you could easy to read the book of "AR" by yourself. In your state, maybe you don't know the structure of the C language. If you try more, you could solve it ! Trust me ! I also have a poor Math for learning Renderman, many questions are more useful !
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文章Gunsmith » 23日 6月 2002年, 15:54

Download Siggraph papers of Renderman courses . There are some good tips how to write shaders .

http://www.renderman.org/RMR/Books/index.html#Sig/
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文章Maya初仔 » 25日 6月 2002年, 11:25

:oops:
Many tks for u all..!!! i just come back from China...Late Tks!! U are right!! "keep attention in my lesson."
But i brought the "Renderman Companion" from Amazon la....i can't cancel the shipment now!!! :cry:
Tks u guys!!!
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文章Gunsmith » 25日 6月 2002年, 13:41

MtoR on-line tutorial .

http://www.deathfall.com/tutorials.php

New features of RAT5 .

http://www.pixar.com/renderman/artist_t ... rat50.html

RAT5 now support HDRI image and new interactive lighting and shading ( something similar to 'IPR' of Maya ).

Before ( standard blin shader)
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After ( with HDRI mapped )
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文章Maya初仔 » 25日 6月 2002年, 14:34

:o :o :o :o
Is really better!!!!
:o :o :o :o
Tks! Gunsmith for the online Tutorial..... :P
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