IVE的cg問題!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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as now, i just feel that different people have different goal for their life.
So, if you study in IVE, u are not only learn techiques, you also learn academic stuff, let say : design, art, drawing and artistic...etc
so, it just depends what you want, IF you only have limited time and only want to learn techiques, just go to the short course to get the short term goal.

some people will went to learn the techiques first, then step back to study drawing..in real life .............

"the way to go which is choosing by yourself", as a observer, we only can give advice to YouSheHeHerThemTheyUsOurs......

[HONG KONGer]

香港動畫制作公司已經傾向招請有跨媒體知識既動畫人員

I'm not sure, but by looking at what Menfond course teaches, it seems that your statement is not true.

用三年不一定浪費時間金錢

Really?

動畫制作公司請人，showreel 比較重要！

Yes, so why study a "media" course?

就算讀過Menfond搞既動畫班，都不一定入到行！

何況IVE呢？

[HONG KONGer]

I want to fxck the IVE long time

hahaha, me 2

[3d mask]

I'm not sure, but by looking at what Menfond course teaches, it seems that your statement is not true.

難道Menfond話你知點請animator？
不過IVE一定得罪你！

[HammerChugoh]

Things are clear, if you want to explore more than 3D and a little bit longer, ive is good.
otherwise, go somewhere else. There are no absolutly good or bad. It's depends on people.

香港動畫制作公司已經傾向招請有跨媒體知識既動畫人員
well, if you are talking about those animation or VFX studio, it's really not true.

[zeph]

Yeah the IVE one is an ass-licking course.

相信大家有眼睇吧？
我唔系想踩IVE，我主要系想為有意入行的人找到適合課程，免浪費時間金錢精力。

你自相矛盾吧? 而且你的說話也偏向以此抑彼。

先旨聲明, 我也是IVE DM的學生, 希望不要因此而認定我在立場
上會有偏差, 如果你有這種想法, 你同樣不是公平地去看待我了~^^"

有什麼course是廢的? 我相信只有廢人而沒廢course的; 我的意思是每個課程本身都有不同的定位, 學到你想學的東西就是達到目標, 所以是"廢" 或"無關"與否即因人而異的, 我不認為給予過份主觀及偏激的觀點是件好事。
就回應對DM的指摘而言, 其中有些反而是確保課程畢業者質素的手段, 亦反映課程舉辦人的誠意, 其他所數的缺點中亦有資料錯誤之處。
IVE的課程一向標榜實務, 它主要為中五畢業的同學提供就業准備, 課程內容主要為職前技術培訓, 但亦為普遍中五學生的語文能力欠佳問題提供補助, 相信沒人敢反對提升語文能力=提升競爭力的說法吧? 故在此不多作爭論; 而其他商業理論及技巧的學科, 就是針對職業而生的, 去問問現職人士(行內外也可以), Marketing及Management的知識有多重要, 你會得到答案的, 但如果甘心一世做operator的話, 即管忘記它。
另外,某些課程(正如DM), 亦為同學提供多元化的技能學習機會, 原因主要為擴闊學生的前路選擇, 要知道無論報讀哪個課程, 多數有意入讀者都難以透過課程內容介紹去全面了解整個課程, 故課程給予更多相關的知識和技能, 即是給他們多一個選擇。 而且據實際經驗, 當學生對每個學科有更多及更深的體驗後, 才真正了解自己的取向。 更可況, 如LCh之前所說, DM這個course內涉及多媒體的知識及技術絕對比只學3d軟件有力, 各創作媒體的意念是可以互換及互維影響的, 擁有越多方面的意念就代表你有越多材料去做你的創作; 當然, 做operator的話, 根本很難真正談上創作...

另一方面, 雖然列舉出來的其他課程十分集中於3D, 但半年內學39個topics, 相信算是很急吧? 而且要比較所謂的效率的話, 和DM相比起來, 也少了mot cap及數個compositing軟件學吧? 要知道有幾個技術在香港不是隨便一個地方可以學到的。 在急迫的課堂安排下, 也未必像IVE一樣有各式各樣的實習機會。

回到基本, 我想發表者的原意是詢問, 如果中五畢業的話, 想在IVE讀3D/CG相關課程有何選擇, 所以列舉事實讓他作為參考便夠, 有多些提議供選擇亦是好事, 但加入太多個人意見過份渲染的話, 容易令不清楚的人誤會所聽(看)到的就是事實的全部。 我給發表者的意見是, 作為參考, 兩方面的說話都要聽, 不要懶, 再親自去了解一下那個course較切合你的目標再作決定。

[johngalliano]

>>我相信只有廢人而沒廢course的
I like this sentence!! I think it's 90% right.

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>>我相信只有廢人而沒廢course的
I like this sentence!! I think it's 90% right.

i think is 100% right..........

[Joker]

[quote="HONG KONGer"]呀LCH兄，我唔知你系乜人。

IVE這個course主要有以下缺點：
1. 名為"Digital Media"，不是"Digital 3D Animation"，根本不是為主攻3D而設。
2. 需3年才能完成(我就唔會噤等喇!)
3. 只有其中一間學院開辦，報名的人甚多，入讀不易。
4. 需中學會考五科成績達E級或以上(其他中心沒有此限制)
5. 每日上課時間比其他中心多出很多，且要每日上課.(比較其他中心，但對某些人來說可能會是好處)
6. 需讀無關科目
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這些也是IVE 的缺點嗎 ????
這些缺點是生長在個別人士的身上
而不是課程的問題

拿一個 media 課程，說他不是 3D course ???
3個月給你一張high dip就是最好 ???
一間還不夠，還是好像軟硬體那樣 ???
小學畢業就可以入學便是好課程 ???
一星期上一、兩天課比每日上課學得還多 ???

[number5]

現今香港新一代的質素就是這樣子？所有考慮都只會是急功近利？學好語文都只是浪費時間．學好溝通，又是浪費時間．這樣studios要雇用的首選恐怕要是文盲及啞巴了．IVE這樣便宜的學費，修讀三年便護授認可的高級文憑(和degree只差一級)，又都是浪費時間！到底是怎麼攪的．難怪有公司可用3-6000雇用了上百人呢．我想1500還差不多．天啊．

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just imagine,
If the course is called " 3D CG operator " course, will you join ?

but if the course is called : " 3D CG Design ", u must join , but it have to be learn 2D, 3D design history, drawing, clay modelling.... will you step back !??!?

please notice that, 3D = 3 dimension, CG=computer graphics AND
Design = art + society communication........!!!!

i also feel that the recent TVC of the learning english and putonghua is totally useless....as still no people understand the language 's important in real life....

[HONG KONGer]

拿一個 media 課程，說他不是 3D course ???

Come on, we are talking about 3D here.

3個月給你一張high dip就是最好 ???

Well, CityU's Maya course actually is a 3 months course. But it doesn't mean it's good.
I'm saying that the course length shouldn't be too short or long.

一間還不夠，還是好像軟硬體那樣 ???

IVE has many different centers at different places in HK. But only one of them is running this course. So, avaliable seats are only about 40 for the entire HK.

Other 3D courses at other organization may have less seats, but they have far fewer people to apply. The CityU Maya course actually have empty seats now.

小學畢業就可以入學便是好課程 ???

中五會考肥左果D就冇得讀喇.

一星期上一、兩天課比每日上課學得還多 ???

It depends on different ppl.

[HONG KONGer]

Ok fulks, I think I had said too much down-sides about the IVE course. It really not so good for them. They have whatever right to run whatever courses they want. I decide to stop this now. But when other people ask me if he/she should study this course for learning 3D, I will just not recommand them to join it.

Again, I just want to point out the right direction for people who really want to get a 3D job. Thank you.

[johngalliano]

Hm...actually i think basic education like (languages, math,...)is very important, even if u go to University for let's say computer graphics, u won't have all ur time and credits just for computer graphics, u still have to study languages (at least English, for example), math, social science, humanity subjects, one or two natural science course, business course...etc..(as ur electives), why the university bother to provide so many different kinds of courses to the students? Because these courses broaden ur view, inspire ur thinking and help u to develop ur personality. U can really feel the differences when comparing people who have a decent tertiary education and those who haven't. When u are only about 18 or so, it's really not that urgent to get a job, take ur time to think about urself and gain a good tertiary education is much more important then getting into whatever industries and start earning money.

[Qbb]

Hong Kong education is too more fxcking subject

Fxuk the IVE waste time subject again and again