Morpher同Physique既次序

[siub]

想問正確系咪先做好唔同表情既頭,然後add morpher -> pick object from scene 去揀番表情果D頭. 然後先加 physique (我個頭同個身系分開落 physique)

我跟以上次序做,系可以做到表情,但系一將個頭左右擰,個咀就會變型....何解..??

[stantang]

My understanding is, in most case, morph should be added at the last in order to avoid any unwanted deformation.

[siub]

I'm sorry. I tried to add Physique first and then add the Morpher on the head. After that, when I rotate the Bip01 Head, the head will not go with it.......

Did I do something wrong? Thanks in advance

[riccardo1978]

My experience is that the "Morpher" modifier has to be BELOW the "Physique" modifier for the setup to work properly. The the head deformation might be casued by vertices weight not being assigned fully to the head bone.

[stantang]

Sorry, I was thinking in Maya theory... in Max I think it's different. riccardo1978 should be right.

[sobig]

siub,

your 1st method is correct in max rigging.
i guess u add too weight on the head that is controlled by neck bone.

and mostly, we also use "Skin" for rigging
hope this help

[siub]

I have already assigned all the vertex of the head (except the neck) to the head link with "green" vertex and "no blending".

Any other possible cause.....? Thanks in advance.

[riccardo1978]

before you assign the vertices to the head bone as no blending (green), u will need to remove all blending (red) vertices assignment. because in physique a vertex can be both rigid and deformable @ the same time.

[sobig]

yes,
or you can try"Skin" you can paint the weight whatever u want.

[siub]

before you assign the vertices to the head bone as no blending (green.....

I have done this before. I do it once again and now the mouth will not deform when the head turn right and change a facial expression. But when the head return to normal positon and the facial expression change back to the orignal one, the head deform again....

Is that possible that it is related to the Xform? I'm not sure what to do with this.

[siub]

yes,
or you can try"Skin" you can paint the weight whatever u want.

Thanks a lot. I have not learned this modifier yet. I need to study a bit and try if it works.

But I'm not sure if it related to the weight issue as I checked in the type-in weight that all the vertex of the head should be affected only by the head bone.......

I want to start other part of my assignment asap...... So bad

[siub]

I finally made it with sobig's suggestion!!!!

It is strange that no matter what I tried on Physiques, the head will deform in all the case.... But for Skin, one-take is ok.

I set the vertex soley affected by the head bone. I can make various facial expression and rotate the head at the same time, without deforming the head la!! No more Eddison Chan la!!

Thanks all brothers help in solving my questions. I can go on with my assignment la!!!

[sobig]

very nice rigging, siub.
praise for u.

as a matter of fact, "Physiques" is fashionable in 3ds max 4.0.
i cannot remember that "Skin" is invented in max 5.0 or 6.0.
ultimately, Skin dominate the method of rigging in max by well usability.
try to play more arround with these new tools.
u may get some fun there.

and nice character,
u r doing a game character or some things?

[siub]

I'm not doing a game character. There is long way to go to there...

I'm justing doing an assignment that required us to create a short video with sound effects for a character for around 30 sec. Here is my work in last assignment to just build a character and make it move.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q15IifGY9js

It is very hard to study and work at the same time. But I will try my best.

[sobig]

yes, i do figure out your point as i am doing the same thing.