畢業生??

[HapZungLam]

我個人就覺得用這個名稱也沒什麼問題！我這樣說是因為我覺得這個協會有點慘！為什麼會無端端的被人激烈地批評？做錯了什麼嗎！我看完了都覺得無理頭！只是一個名稱

Yap, im pretty agree with you.

I hope Rascal dont' get mad on this.

各位！不要再爭論了，我真希望這個討論到我便停止！(我知實無可能，哈哈！)

You know what lighting? couple days ago before this thread coming out. CG-forum is kind of boring. Actually i kinda like this thread. This thread is way more mature than some of the thread weeks ago. At least this time we are really discuss on a topic. And our offensive language is very low.

[Siegfried]

Agree.

Think about it deeply, is it happy if this association got closed due to their argument, nothing get improved and people get frustrated, CG was left behind, is this what they/we are looking for?

Save some energy for the computer rather than mouth.
But yeah....the previous statement is more mature than before, but...I just don't like something destructive.

[Maya初仔]

[Save some energy for the computer rather than mouth.]

Totally agree!!!!

[Juno]

如果說話有理據的話，無需要調是自己是"過路的人"去加自己的中立性 !!
你扮得多中立也好，你為HKAA護航的文章也只是一大編情緒發洩的內容!!

我絕對相信大部份成年人是清楚這次討論的重點!! 當然討論到現階段，大家都把情緒放上去討論中，
不過即使一些針對我的意見是帶攻擊性，直到現在我都是盡量用平常心態作回應!

總括一些同一立場的意見，現在我可列舉他們的論點 :

他們認為:

1 : " 香 港 動 畫 創 作 協 會 " 只 是 一 個 普 通 組 織 名 稱

2 : " 香 港 動 畫 創 作 協 會 " 不 是 代 表 香 港 ，不 是 代 表 業 界

3 : " 香 港 動 畫 創 作 協 會 " 的 會 員 是 剛 畢 業 的 學 生 (Art Center ) ， 所 以 作 品 不 是 專 業 水 准 !

其實 第2 同第3 點都是客觀的事實 ，所以我們就這事實去討論問題 !!

但大家明白我們的在討論什麼嗎 ? 為何我們在討論的是" 香港動畫創作協會 " 而不是 "Ani-nation" ?

[HapZungLam]

為何我們在討論的是" 香港動畫創作協會 " 而不是 "Ani-nation" ?

because you don't like the name 香港動畫創作協會

[Juno]

HapZungLam 的言論一向獨特，最叫人印像深刻的是他曾說HKAA會員的作品不是專業水准(not professional)，但為了反駁我的論點，跟著居然說香港的 general 水准就是這樣!

老實說你這等說法只顯示自己的無知和自大的，更可能在分化HKAA與業界的聯系! 你的言論已欠說服力 !

[Siegfried]

As you said the association was composed of students, rather than real CGer in the industries, of course there is no way to compared them with each other, loving CG is one thing, but quality is another issue, if the quality is pretty 'weak', then encourage them to make it better, if the quality is good, then it served as a good example to learn.
Forget the style of the name, guys, it is just a name, don't be fooled by it, it didn't deserve anymore argument or discussion in this forum.

[johngalliano]

　　HapZungLam， 其實你無需猜估或推斷Juno心裡是否喜歡“香港動畫創作協會”這個名稱，這只會顯得你已經詞窮而藉說出“你不喜歡這個”、“你不喜歡那個”等話來打擊對手，迥避討論的重點，是盲目爭辯的技掚。認清這些技掚我們就能夠避免犯同一樣的錯，使得討論較有效而又較有意義。
　　我想，今次討論的重點是“香港動畫創作協會”這個名稱是否合適現時這個會的性質和目的。應與Juno的個人喜好無關吧！對不對？

[onionhead08]

someone wrote:

他說得更過份，叫人地改為學會！你估人地搞學生會咩！

香港天文學會, 香港投資學會 etc etc. should they change their names also?
學 can also mean knowledge, beside school. :<

someone also wrote this thread generate a lot of attention among the community. isn't it the best time and place 4 the HKAA to promote itself and absorb new members and grow? if HKAA choose to offically respond on this thread and join the discussion may be we won't have this kinda conversation now. but they choose to shut up and stay as a small group. pity

[HapZungLam]

HapZungLam 的言論一向獨特，最叫人印像深刻的是他曾說HKAA會員的作品不是專業水准(not professional)，但為了反駁我的論點，跟著居然說香港的 general 水准就是這樣!

老實說你這等說法只顯示自己的無知和自大的，更可能在分化HKAA與業界的聯系! 你的言論已欠說服力 !

let me directly face and answer your question. Yes, this is what in my mind. Most of the HK grads are only at this level, compare to China Mainland, you guys should learn from them. I see many of great 3D "ART" at cgtalk.com which is made by Chinese "student" who are from Mainland. By comparison, students in HK are not professional compare with students in mainland.

Refuring to your speech "這等說法只顯示自己的無知和自大的" you are totally mis-understand me. Me myself, I also need to self upgrade myself, becuase i compare myself to those students, i am a beginner also. I am compareing you guys to the world lvl, not me. How can you say i am 自大.

However, you said i am 無知. Then it might be true. Since you repeated yourself saying that "香港的 general 水准就是這樣" is wrong. I am not trying to argue with you. Since as you said, i am in overseas. I might wrong. However, think about it. Why does HK give me this kind of feeling. Why? why don't i feel China mainland's CG sucks. If you try to support your arguements. Then you must show me proofs.

here are some of the students, remember is students from china did this.
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=35136
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=34824
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=32802

[HapZungLam]

　　HapZungLam，其實你無需猜估或推斷Juno心裡是否喜歡“香港動畫創作協會”這個名稱，這只會顯得你已經詞窮而藉說出“你不喜歡這個”、“你不喜歡那個”等話來打擊對手，迥避討論的重點，是盲目爭辯的技掚。認清這些技掚我們就能夠避免犯同一樣的錯，使得討論較有效而又較有意義。

Thx for reminding.

However, I hope all of us here won't build up hates thru out this thread. Snice we are just argueing on the topic. We'll not do any personal tackle. Or if we did, please forgive each others.