3D Animation Schools -> Which is bad ? Which is good ?

[Maya初仔]

Hi tdk,
I knew this problem after i learned many course in HK in these past ten years !! This is HK teaching style!!!!!!!! u paid money to learn this softwave, they only teach u in this field!! They don't care about how is yr art skill....
In the mean time, i've to computer uses me!! Cos, i'm new! And they still have to teach like that, i can tell u, i'm totally disagree their teaching style!!!! Only teaching us what tools is using for what.......... U know i already asked them why! But they told me they are really slower than other tutor in CityU!!! Also they told us that CityU asked them they are too slow and they scare CityU will cut their teaching time!!!! "i remember he did said about it!!!......So, i don't know where the problem is????? Can Anyone tell me???? FAST is our HK Style??????Right!!!
Do u know i'm want to be a painter when i was 20!! First time i saw computer art, i really don't expect it will "BIG" like what we are seeing now! i think how they can replace my hand!!!!But being a painter in HK u can't "find rice eat" So, now i'm a Handbag designer!!! Now, i need time to get to use to this software!! Even my classmate they are also like that!!! Afterwards, i will use it back!!!
Sometime i really don't like why they rush too fast!! But i think i'm lucky that i can learn from these tutor!!! Cos, others they are really XXXXX!! Sorry! Not all of them as u say! But i think it is because we paid $22,000!! They have to teach like that!!! i don't the reason!!! Maybe some day u will see me interview in yr office!!! i will tell u i'm the Maya初仔!! "Just Joking!" i hope my english not make u misunderstand what my really meaning! Is HK teaching style!!!

[Maya初仔]

To photoshopthegreat,
i really agree tdk that u should learn in Art centre!!! But not the >_< expensive course!!!!
Cso, u told us u don't have basic art skill !!!
Don't go too fast!! u should consecrate to basic drawing, art sense, painting......sometimes u can also self studying 3D softwave!! Step by step!!! u still young! Right!

[3d mask]

In Pixar and PDI, most of them are using in-house animation software. So they are looking a man with good art sense rather than any operation skill! And they will give you time to learn their software.

But in HK, production houses are looking a person who can sit down and work!

So I understand why there have HK teaching style! But is this good for HK cg lover? Software will change in some day!( alias > maya, soft3d > xsi, 3dstudio > 3dmax). So how much you need to spend on this endless change???

[henrychan13]

now.I am studying in art center.....& some of point u all talked are right....like they always change teacher.....
I had studied there for half year....until now..they had change 3 teacher...1.ronald from city u:2. kidson from city u, 3. sunny... forgot where he from....but first too are not very good..they always look like don't want to teach you thing when u ask them..and I think couse they don't know art so they can't make a good cg..just a software user.......
and I think other non-computer lesson is far more useful than maya.....this like every one know how to use pen but not every one can draw....I think animation is a kind of art..it need many design & idea to support it...not just a computer & software.......

[Cujo]

do you know the famous canada "Sheridan School or Art and Design" ? they have many graduated student working at ILM, Pixar....etc.

they also teach computer animation, but what they are focus on (beside software) are mostly traditional animation technique, film directing, sculpture....

they choose student base on the ART Sense, not Software Skill.

Do you realize how many years you gonna have to study there? How much time we are studying here in Hong Kong?
Moreover, you think everyone can just walk into Sheridan and study there because he/she wants to? You need a good educational background before you get considered, such as a college or university degree. That means you are assumed you are already well-educated that you know how to think.

Let's face it, people!
First, you don't expect schools can teach you everything in a couple of months.
Second, if you don't do well in school, is it really because the program problem or somthing else.

People think schools just teaching them how to use the software because those people don't think. They just do whatever being instructed to. They can't bring themselve to the next level.

People think schools not teaching them anything because the school taught them to think but not just pressing the buttons.

Think about how many years of studies to earn you a degree for Master of Fine Art.

My suggestion is take whatever you have now and keeping it up-to-date. Invest on whatever you don't have and be prepared.

Excuse me if I've upset anyone, those are just my opinions, no offened.

-Cujo-

[古董動畫人]

或者art center 唔適宜話佢個系教animation 啦，有小小扼錢之嫌

[Maya初仔]

Honesty! i learn CG only for my hobby and really interested about it! Even i really want to join this field!!But, i'm not dreaming i can join in these big company "Pixar and PDI" or .....or...... i just want to do something i really love it and create something i like it!!! Even DREAMING is good and can rush myself to do it!!!

[Maya初仔]

Oh! i remember the guy call "kidson"!! My classmate told me that the guy who is teaching very very FAST and don't care about u know and understand or not!! If he teach our class, my classmate told me there will 80% will quit!!! Cos, my classmate told me he studied his lesson before in CityU.....

[古董動畫人]

正如先前有文章提及過，art center 成日換tutor，學生根本唔知幾時會被換上自己唔信任o既人教架喎，比左錢又quit 咪好唔抵囉 ? 八皮野喎...

[flower]

大家好, 我系art center student!
art center ok la, 我認為最緊自己比心機去學，我大把錢， 八皮野唔系問題，最緊要玩得開心，阿媽放心.

[heha]

你有大把錢,但我覺得讀書唔系玩,最重要有無野學!!!
因為唔系錢的問題,而是時間的問題.
Sunny, 邊過Sunny, 你呀Sir呀, 佢教你邊科呢?
什麼no good呢? 請說明之. 多謝.

[古董動畫人]

flower ，我鍾意你咁講，有氣勢，仲唔怕米貴，但戥你屋企唔抵。

[meow]

i'm a student of arts centre...first of all, i'd like to say that, no matter what would the school provided to you, when you are a "student", there're lots of responsibilty you need to take. computer animation....as many others things, a lot of different medias, ideas, concepts, skills, creativities...supporting what you do. basic concepts or skills are always in the first and the most important; skills in the second!! you know, what you expected the school would give to you was not they teaching every buttons, every step...these suppose you do by yourself...(if you are mature), if a school really teach like that...i suggested you better buy a technical book instead go to school.....when you concern on "money". you read that kind of books, you still get what you want -- "how to use..."

come on guys! the teaching method of secondary school is no longer use in any good university or school....you guys have been poisoned for a long time...still expecting lecturers giving you notes but never study them, i guess you have never write notes for yourself...so, what have you "learned"?!! if you've never explorered, tried, written down...you can learn something after you read/scan? you genius??!!!! XXXXX don't be silly......if you think that's right, you'll be a good technicians....art director, i'm sorry, that's not your field! if you really love cg, all the stuff related to it must interested you, and you'll got guts, and curious to know more, to do more, wanna reaching a higher level. why cg is a profession? you know that, not everyone have that patient, guts, knowledge in both art and animation, and like to spend time for what they think is valued.

moreover, arts centre have changed lecturer 3 times, the reason is 1.ronald left himself; 2. kinson is a good technician but not lecturer, we have complained for that, thus, the arts centre made the right decision...kicked him out!! sunny lam is the best of three, he is good in both senses and skills. Their difference is worker and leader...you're clever & knew what i mean.

lastly, drawings, history, principles, concepts....etc. basic are very important. (of course, including ENGLISH + CHINESE + COMMUNICATION TECHNIQUES) if you even don't know how a man looks, what's a car like...how do you build a model in maya~~? are you gonna to tell the computer, said "make a car, please?", and hit enter, it will produced?! remember, what human got is brain, computer is only a tool/machine for you to control...not you're under control by it!! by the way, animation is a kind of communications:writing skills, presentation skills, get along with others....are courses you've to learn for the whole life!! (and ive do have pe class, but i think is great, is a balance to you and keep you healthy, and your mind smartly! don't tell me that you think doing exercises are useless...or you wanna die early)

i'm don't wanna made anyone upset, i'm here to say if things you're not sure/clear, please stay away, and don't make any comments/rumours to confuse others. there're more i want to say...cuz i'm really unhappy with those who think they're the rights, talk too much but done too less. but i've said enough. if you still don't understand, i'm helpness with that. wish you luck and God bless.

please forgive me if i hurt you, i'm just speak in honest.

i'm stuying well, i'm enjoying my class.

[3d mask]

haha! To student, there is no good or bad! If you think the school is suitable for you. Keep going!

But you must know you are not going to learn press button!

[古董動畫人]

唔緊要o既，最緊要比錢o既覺得值咪得囉，學倒 - 學唔倒，抑或有用無用，到蒲出黎社會，自然會知道，我估各位響呢度討論o既，都唔系想話 art center 唔掂或者掂，大家只系響度講緊自己所聽所聞，唔少亦有事實根據，所以無o巖定唔o巖之分，但響咁多意見裡面，有唔少都系一面倒o既指責，會唔會系真有其事 ? 又或者系空穴來風呢 ?

仲有...... 響咁多個討論之中，有唔少人系響呢個 field 做緊o既，或者你可以聽下在職人仕o既意見，睇睇自己o既老師，或者你會得著更多。你今日咁激動咁講出自己o既感受，明日市場自然會話你聽你有幾多成o巖架啦，仲有....你問番你d tutor咩系動畫丫。

"art and animation" 唔系口號黎架，掛住個牌教動畫，如果教落唔系o個回事o既，又或者上完堂之後我變左英文好叻，仲有我識哂所有maya o既command ，咁我可唔可以叫做識做動畫呢 ? 好難講，標准亦因人而異。各位，可以補充一下嗎 ?