六月二十五日cgvisual新聞...

[Dick Ma]

Chief Executive Tung Chee Hwa says there will be no quota restrictions for Chinese-language films produced in Hong Kong entering the Mainland market.
董 建 華 昨 宣 布 在 本 港 與 內 地 簽 署 更 緊 密 經 貿 關 系 安 排 下 , 內 地 會 全 面 放 寬 香 港 電 影 的 入 口 及 制 作 , 放 寬 包 括 制 作 單 位 只 需 30 % 的 內 地 工 作 人 員 , 亦 不 規 限 要 全 部 在 內 地 拍 攝, 對 香 港 電 影 業 有 一 定 的 幫 助

我想發表我的個人意見: (觀迎討論)

首先我同我個neighbour睇新聞睇到董建華個樣, 佢就即刻轉台....你話董生"幾咁受觀迎". 而我都當時唔知發生咩野事...剩系諗點解有梅艷芳系度.

睇番今日cgvisual 先知發生咩野事.

Well, 依幾日都見到董生系度做show...大家都知發生咩野事, 無非都想壓低七一游行數字....(不過無用架). 講真呀..我話佢都唔知傳媒電影文化系咩....個D功勞咪又系呀唐英年斟掂, 董生剩系得把口宣布.....不過大家唔好太過老定..我覺得咁樣宣布政治目的大過實際目的..放寬香港電影的入口及制作唔系代表無政治審查...系兩樣野....即系你在香港拍既片會因為內容而唔一定可以在大陸入口..大家唔好被修飾言詞蒙敝左....最大既創作閘口還未開放...

我個人感到最可惜系又有一個我欣賞既人又令我失望了: 梅艷芳

我記得在舊年TVB 既頒獎典禮悼念羅文的環節, 她的歌藝同台風令我印像深刻....我覺得美國有麥當娜, 香港有anita. 我初時都覺得她的作風都應該是敢作敢為那一類.....

但系近期她的清晰作風好似打了折扣...首先同謝霆鋒的事件(唔講內容了)...到而家做左董生的人肉布景板.....我覺得以她的江湖地位, 這些事她應該可以handle得到...但現在她好似.....同董建華同一陣線咁.....唉...我諗佢七一都唔會去游行了..(或者比個好D既籍口:以佢的地位根本唔會同一班平民去游行)

有時我會問...世界上有冇人的腰骨系直既呢, 唔會向權貴彎下來?...定系這個是人生成長要學習既階段? 定現實話比我們知, 人要這樣才可以在社會上立足.

昨日的蘋果日報的頭條系電影導演們表態支持七一游行....我但願他們的腰骨唔會因為董建華所帶來的消息而變"攣"

仲有..大家要留意今日既立法會行政長官答問大會(應該改叫立法會行政長官"有佢答""無得問"大會), 睇下呢條粉腸又發表D咩野"偉論"

[HapZungLam]

Can you strongly state all the things that Mr. Dong had done which makes you hate him so much?

[Dick Ma]

好簡單, 我發覺佢上任之後好多事物都變得好唔公平....好似有錢, 有地位既人真系可以大哂....
我知道世界根本唔公平...但至少我會覺得有一些東西可以維持, 至少唔會到達惡化的地步,甚至一小撮人為了的私利而摧毀一些固有的價值觀.....例如法治..道德同自由.如果再這樣惡化下去....個人怎樣努力都沒有用, 因為那些人很容易就會推毀及吞並你所建立的事業..

我個人至少不會"愛"董建華...

[Maya初仔]

Can you strongly state all the things that Mr. Dong had done which makes you hate him so much?

i guess u are not living in HK, so did't know how he made HK people hate him!!!! Not only Dick Ma!!!! Me and most of my colleague, around 30 people in our company! We hate him very much than u thought......but not include my US Boss...........i think u know what i mean!!!
Like Dick Ma say : 好似有錢, 有地位既人真系可以大哂..........Now HK is being same as China la!!!!

梁甘蟲...........i think u knew what's going on la! Zero智.........免費同中, 下層做手術"殺頸放血"........
羊永強...........他的社區定義只是為:有錢, 有地位人的地方及特手府.......
葉廇..............七 s me la! Let's yr eye longer to see!! 23 x 2 = 64......主席佢口臭,我拒絕同佢接吻
梁愛Shift............又系一個鐵生生只是包庇有錢有地位人的久官!!!!
馬Shift亨............由於工作太煩忙,RELAX焗疏拿時,蒸發了港人很多米青子.....
廖秀憎................高層的所謂意見即代表下層的所有意見.........

太多我不想寫了.............但我們由800人民選出來的特別手,說他的腳下全都有高尚米鋪...........

[supercat7xx]

HapZungLam: 你不是香港人不怪你, 但不知你知不知到有本書叫三角演義呢?你可以找此書看看啊,內容是講有東漢未期有個叫董卓的人在攪攪震,其目的是想做皇帝,使當時天下大亂, 當的看到這裡就知我們點解要憎這個"董健華"了,我想信全港有大部分人看想對付他的, 他真的是董卓的後人,也是另一個董卓!

[HapZungLam]

you use 董卓 to compare with 董健華. that's..... a little bit un fit.

Last year, when there has a chance of revoting another mayer of HK, how come there has no one would stand up and fight against him. As you said all (well, in this case, i should use most) HK people hate his way of doing HK, then why don't they be the next mayer instead.

Dick. I still need some more points and proofs of what you are saying. Because what you are saying is base on what you own opinion. Do you have some proofs to support your arguement?

[tdk]

you use 董卓 to compare with 董健華. that's..... a little bit un fit.

Last year, when there has a chance of revoting another mayer of HK, how come there has no one would stand up and fight against him. As you said all (well, in this case, i should use most) HK people hate his way of doing HK, then why don't they be the next mayer instead.

Dick. I still need some more points and proofs of what you are saying. Because what you are saying is base on what you own opinion. Do you have some proofs to support your arguement?

from your above comments, you really know very very little about the current HK government.

So, it's very hard to explain everything Mr. Tung has done in the past 6 years. Soooooooooooo many Bad thing.

What I can say is, Mr. Tung did nothing RIGHT ( I Mean really Wrong for HK People ).

[Dick Ma]

To HapZungLam:

First I would like to explain that the current Chief Executive Election is under the control of the Basic Law, that's the Election Committee of about 800 people only. We don't know HOW this committee is formed by which people, But at least those people have no basic support or recognition by our HK citizens(except the Legislative Council Members from the geographical constituencies). Most of them have relationships from Beijing. So what ever who stand out to challenge Mr Tung, the result is the same. And there are lots of restrictions, regulations related to the CEE that a HK citizen can hardly become a Chief Executive nominee, like 100 people supports in documentary approvements. Only Tung have power to do it.

Even the elections of the Legislative Council is not a democratic one because only a minor half of the seats (24 out of 60) are elected by our HK citizens. And their election method is in favour of DAB(民賤聯). That means what ever you elect the Democratic Party or the Independents, if the ballot distribution is too sparse, DAB dogs and Beijing dogs may still selected. Other seats are mostly for government-obedient dogs.

Generally in conclusions, most of our voices are ignored because we are under the Basic Law and the current political situations. I believe most of the HK citizens are fight against Tung and Article 23. But will Tung get dethroned by ours? or The Article 23 will stop processing by ours? The answer is No. But we should do something, to make a historical remark and statement about that we did something on 1 July 2003, although the action might not success.

Well, HapZungLam may think that I was affected by the mass media or the current atmosphere so I fight against Tung. But do I need to become one of the casualties like the SARS patients and the deads, Negative Assets owners, or the poor people due to unemployment so that I am called ELGIBLE to fight against tung? What I know is:

To judge the facts by right and wrong in our own hearts and fairness, and then act!

[HapZungLam]

As you said, there has only 24 seats are elected by HK citizens. Do you mean the rest (36) seats are all controled by Tung or do they have their own rights to vote? If so, then all the laws are already passed. However, from what i see from the news, Tung has to work very hard on convass every election to get through.

[魚魚]

實在 可以冇限額輸入大陸
幫助不會太大
因為 拍攝制作地區 都 轉向國內
好多 都會請 當地 民工 由其是 廣州 "珠影" 門口
出曬名 而且後期制作 國內多的是 有部份還是 hk人上去做
跟本 工序 不用回流 hk
就算 認為 國內未達 高水准制作
試問 hk一年有幾多套 高水准電影返 hk 做?
而且 國內水准 也不是差
所以最終 得益者 都不是 下層 制作人員

更有一點 國內 景點 開始 乜都 拍過
我識部份 導演 開始 轉向印尼 取景制作
印尼 風景又靚 價錢 又 同 大陸差不多 分分鍾平過大陸
加上 d 制作人員 大部份都是由"馬來西亞" 飛過黎
部份是hk人 and 馬來西亞人 水准比大陸更好

[Dick Ma]

Well, HapZungLam, the voting system of about how one ordinance get approved is ALSO in favour of the DAB dogs and Gov't-obedient dogs. Because the voting is divided into two groups: Geographical Constituencies and Functional Consituencies. That is one ordinance should pass two gates so that it's got approved to become law.

But as I told you before, both groups have those "dogs" to control the voting, therefore most of the voting results are out of our willingness.

HapZungLam, well I am not going to talk more about political here because it is CGV, a site which is talking about computer graphics . As you mentioned that you watch HK newspapers everday. What I am talking about is just common sense. If you want to find more, just surf the web.

[supercat7xx]

HapZungLam, 雖然我看不明你的英文, 但可以說給你聽,自97年之後香港無一年好過,98年時當時的才政司話香港會是全亞洲回復得取快果個,但現在呢? 那個老懵董又說成立什麼數碼港,中藥港,什麼學院,全都是個講字! 物野漁人碼頭, 真是愚人個頭, 八萬五, 狐仙事件, 短壯事件,民調事件,偷步買車,仙股事件,沙士事件,及現在的23條法案,這些都是董健華的政付班底做出來的.
董健華只要店果樣就死果樣, 有個笑話,話說本來有些高科技公司做得不錯的,但董健華只要參觀過,之後無耐,這公司就消失了.所以現有很多公司都不想被這個人參觀的.

還有一國兩制目的就是想收回台灣的,但現在有這樣失敗的政府又點可給台灣看呢? 但好彩還有個澳門!

[chatho]

董健華只要店果樣就死果樣, 有個笑話,話說本來有些高科技公司做得不錯的,但董健華只要參觀過,之後無耐,這公司就消失了.所以現有很多公司都不想被這個人參觀的.

...所以其實我都唔系太想佢搞mud鬼創意工業,俾佢玩死都唔知點算...

[sinnk]

其實董生上任後一直都有一個好大的問題, 系想做做吾到, 做到未必好。原因好簡單, 董生上任後急於表現自己, 又好大喜功, 很多事都在沒有充分的安排下急於實施, 變成很多問題相應產生, 如8萬5令到樓市大跌, 相信系佢意想不到的。 之後的金融風暴更令佢手足無措。其實一個過度政府最緊要系穩定, 先安內後擾外, 董生連政府內部問題都未能攪掂又點令經濟復蘇, 現在的官員都是在弄權, 政客又終日為選票而斗爭, 政治吾穩定令到政令難以實行, 實對市民大眾有害無益, 希望2007年後會有新人事新作風。

[HapZungLam]

HapZungLam, 雖然我看不明你的英文, 但可以說給你聽,自97年之後香港無一年好過,98年時當時的才政司話香港會是全亞洲回復得取快果個,但現在呢?

Seriously, it might be true it is because of Mr. Tong. But let me tell you that in toronto during these years right after 97-98. Toronto's is dead. All the industry is dead. Our maya Mr. Lastman did manymany thing to safe it. But none of his idea worked. I guess not only toronto and HK, even LA, NY was expereinceing the same thing.

還有一國兩制目的就是想收回台灣的,但現在有這樣失敗的政府又點可給台灣看呢? 但好彩還有個澳門!

Is Macao having more freedom than HK? i don't know in real life. but from what i see (on the surface). HK gorvenment gives out money to their citizens way more than Macao gorvernment does.

8萬5令到樓市大跌, 相信系佢意想不到的

I really don't understand people are pinking on this. Tong knew it of cuz. Remember the days beofore that. 樓市 is super high. Citizens and commettees are asking for help. Giving out suggestions to pull down 樓市. Then Tong suggest 8萬5 to pull it down. Now it works. But no one likes it. Blaming 樓市 is too low and forgot who ask for it.

偷步買車: Well, this is something terribly happened. I agree that he should lay off Leung. (besides i don't like Leung )

短壯事件: many buildings were built back then when Tong wasn't the mayer yet (correct me if i am wrong tho). Even tho. That's not his fault. Should blame those who build it. The quality of workers are just bad.

狐仙事件: that's nothing to do with him. It is a personal case isn't it.

SARS: Well, he is doing the best he can. You know what he can do better if you guys want to stop the spread right away. Like Singapor, You will get big punishment if you get out on the street when you got SARS. But that means no freedom. Infact, Tong gave you guys freedom and "wish" people will "self-control". However, it was worse than everyone's thinking.

Basic Law 23: every country has something simmular like that. Just pick any country, eg, Canada, US (woow, US). Think about if you do something like "Independend" or split up the control in US. You'll disappear suddenly. Think about US attack Iraq. What are they saying the reason behind it. Against terrist? no, against anyone who US thinks they "tries" to against US. What a horrible another version of basic law 23. However, do they have freedom? yes they do (at least, their citizens have)

I am not trying to stand on any side. I am just trying to understand why do you guys hate Tong so much.

ps. Guys, July 1st is coming. I guess you'll go for the walk for sure. But please remember, becareful, take care. Since such a large group of walk. Some bad people may want to start things bad. If something you don't feel right. Leave right away and keep yourself at a safe place.