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CG 生涯原是夢

文章noomo » 24日 5月 2002年, 15:14

我是一個已離開CG界的老人,偶然見到各位在此對CG仍充滿熱誠,覺得香港的CG前途必成氣候。我不是以老賣老,我想信我算是香港的第一二代動劃師。現在雖已離開,但對CG仍然不能忙懷,所以偶然也會拿來玩o下。

與一些舊同事聯絡,知道現在的CG界比以前蓬勃,亦比以前難捱。但每年都有上千的年青人想入行,我想問o下大家有什麼叫你們對CG還有熱誠?有什麼CG夢想?想成名?想過癮?

要知道在香港若你年過三十五仍未上位或建立自己的公司,你最終都會被Out。但歷年來能上位和開公司的有多少人?香港不像美國,美國的Animator年過三、四十的大有人在。不是想潑冷水,但在香港這是最終要面對的問題!
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文章Siegfried » 24日 5月 2002年, 19:22

It's true for CG animation, you need to 'low paid' and 'OT' all the time, so you are gonna lose so many good days with friends and the greatest of all, lose the chance to really build up a carreer that can be followed all life long, how long can anyone in H.K. keep working in CG, 10 or 20Yrs?
you will quit in the mid-way (or fired) and you will find you've lost track with the industries outside, you are old and...less experience with others if you want to join other career, so I suggest freelancing. You keep your main job for living, and maintaining CG freelancing for fun, of course in professional manner. I Know its hard to maintain the craftmanship but there is nothing fair, especially in HK :cry:
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文章tdk » 25日 5月 2002年, 00:46

>you need to 'low paid'

as I said before, if you are good, you won't get "low paid" too long.

>so you are gonna lose so many good days with friends >and the greatest of all

I have great personal life, my colleague have great personal time and we have spend time with friends and family too, although we did need to "OT" and work long hour, but not worst than "Graphic Design" "Ad Agency" and many other industry.

Not better, but at least not much worst than others industry.

>how long can anyone in H.K. keep working in CG, 10 or >20Yrs?

think again, the CG industry is new, I don't think there are many people with over 20 years experience. Some Big Cg production only have 10 to 15 years history.

at least I know many people work in this industry over 7 and 8 years, some over 10 years.

>so I suggest freelancing

everyone freelancing?


ok, I notice you have many negative impression about hk cg industry. :P

please don't say I'm long gas, if you have passion, and you have talent, you don't really need to restrict yourself in Hong Kong. I know many CG Artist work oversea, work for some US big and famous CG production (not only Raman Hui), so you guy might give it a try.
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文章rryria » 25日 5月 2002年, 00:51

totally agree with tdk!!!!!!

let's work hard, and we must hit the goal!
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Salary

文章Siegfried » 27日 5月 2002年, 01:22

just curious, can anyone tell me something about the salary? Of course, I'm not in the CG animation field and I'm not gonna to join it because I'm too old to start and I have my own family to support, and evening course to study...I will join the CG field if I'm 10 year's younger, really envy you guys :cry: .
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文章tdk » 27日 5月 2002年, 01:45

regarding salary, see my reply in the other post.

hmm..., would you mind to tell us how old are you ? because I myself also join the industry relatively old, but I did it anyway.

my opinion is, if you are confident of your skill and talent, why not give it a try ? of course, you really need to have real passion and really really interested in CG.

anyway, be it a hobby or career, let's enjoy CG :)
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Age

文章Siegfried » 27日 5月 2002年, 02:03

I'm nearly 30 with so much burden on my shoulder and not much time left, that's why I envy you guys but I'm really confident with my skills(only on still pictures :oops: ),I'll stick to the CG with passion, whether for fun or as a career. :D
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文章tdk » 27日 5月 2002年, 03:02

when I join the industry, I'm already 30.

you can still give it a try, send your portfilio to all the big company.

good luck
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文章noomo » 27日 5月 2002年, 14:22

當年我離開CG界時,身酬不錯35000,年方28,可是當時我實在對前景沒有信心。入行時,為了趕Job可以四日不眠不休,但當年近28時發覺當工作到午夜已很難支持下,體能上大不如前。但我工作的是Production House. Deadline 永遠都是很緊迫,而Job的價錢一路下滑,知道即使再干下去只會是繼續這些生活。

再者在Production House 工作,客人要什麼你就要比什麼,客人要舊屎,你就要比一舊最好o既屎出來。實在厭倦這種工作,反而現在離開了可以做自己喜歡CG。
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Difference

文章Siegfried » 27日 5月 2002年, 20:18

Sounds like that the perspective of CG industry from TDK and noomo were rather different from each other, which one should I trust, but I'm too tired for this probably :cry:
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文章tdk » 27日 5月 2002年, 22:43

everyone has their own prefer life style, and people choose the best for their own life.

Our words can only go so far as we have different Journey in our life.

we are both just telling our very own experience and it may differ greatly. :D
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Keep going

文章Siegfried » 27日 5月 2002年, 23:26

You guys must keep going as you all are the pillars of H.K. C.G. industries!
Go!Go!Go! :P
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文章h2o » 28日 5月 2002年, 00:47

To noomo,

So, are u working freelance now?
U have much experience, u can teach in IVE or somewhere if u r a degree holder.
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文章noomo » 28日 5月 2002年, 11:23

我離開了CG界,在技術上我也許已經Out了。現在我間中只要有時間和價錢合理都會接一些Freelance 做。

我想我未夠資格教IVY,縱然我曾經有一批大學畢業的下屬,因我並未擁有大學學位,正所謂"紅褲仔"出身。現在任何職位都要求大學出生,像我這樣身世的人,要靠人緣才可上位。識我的人會知和信我的能力,不識得我的人靠什麼信我?我試過好幾次去見有關工作,接見我的人,經驗比我還小但學歷比我高,縱然他們看完我那盒成個鍾頭長的Showwheel 都會贊我的經驗如許如許豐富等等…,當然最後是無得做啦,通常其後那些職位都個由一些有大學學位的外國留學生擔任,但他們一般工作經驗都很少,很少處理過客戶的實際經驗。所以我最終放棄這類工作,近年閒時制作自己的作品,有機會會公開請大家給我意見。

從Ivy, CityU 畢業出來的學生,雖然他們能接觸不同的軟件和受一定程度上的基礎訓練,但在實際面對客人的要求時還要很多的經驗去應付。以前的公司我曾顧用他們的畢業生,技巧還可以,可惜當接Job時太有個性,不願按客人要求修改的情況常有出現。縱然客人的要求或許不好,但始終是客人,我們都要盡量滿足他的要求。這是香港的情況,Production House 不要當成是 Art Gallery.
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文章HapZungLam » 28日 5月 2002年, 12:26

CG is my dream. Being a modelor, texturer or animator is my dream. I don't care about the money (of cuz, if you pay me alot of money, i won't say no)

But really, I like doing art. I borned to like art. I just fell for CG when i first seeing it. I just don' t have a chance to know how to make it. But once i got the chance, i can't get rid of it.

Although i still don't get a job on anything after graduated for 1 1/2 year. It is very pisses me off. I did think about giving up. but at the end, i didn't. I don't know how long do i have to wait. Or even i am falling into a nighmare (not dream). But for this moment, i won't give up
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