有些失望......

[Dick Ma]

你這樣說的時候我覺得你沒有什麼朋友可言.....

[HapZungLam]

to: tdk

Yes, this is exectly what i mean. I understand this is very obvious. However, most ppl just forget about this.

Many newbies ask us what are the companies looking for. Some of us tell them that "creative is the key". But my point is, you can be as creative as you can in "school". When you get to the society, you have to make things sell. please your client (as you said). please your boss.

"in CG industry, if you are good artist, then you can make money for them. of course, if you are good artist and a good guy with good communication skill, you are the one.
"

Yes, if you are a good artist, you "MAY" get a good job and make money. however, if you have a good job and you have alot of money you "MAY NOT" be a good artist.

you see what i mean? PPl get stressed by not getting hired. They feel that they are a good artist (well, some of them are great), but they don't know how to "sell" themselves. However, lets say if they know how to sell themselves, although they are not a good artist. they will still get a job.

In HK society, from school, to work. They don't have enough chance to present their work. In our society. all the school projects have presentations. not just hand it in and thats it. We have to walk in front of everyone and do a presentation.

My points here, well, yes, it is very obvious. But they are the MAIN points. many ppl just forgot about those.

[HapZungLam]

我可以發誓我是拿出一顆真心去做動畫的.但我覺得奈何香港這一個地方我唔可以有發揮. 至少我吃了不少因為大學,政府官僚的苦頭.

I really do understand how you feel. This is very disapointing and stressful.

I am not just a newbie in the 3D world anymore. I did try my best.

I was like you. Full of confidence and full of hope. At the end, for some reason. I just don't have any chances.

Big company doesn't "have" to keep their promise. I am very sure that TVB won't keep their promises. I am sure that many ppl work in their get pissed off.

You have to know, life IS sucks. You are living in this suck life. Is the matter of how long you can stand on it without giving up.

After you expereice this co insidence. You only tell is what you lose. Did you ever think about what did you gain?

If my demo can show in the tv, even as a background. i am very happy already. because my "heart" is being broad cast!!!

[HapZungLam]

Don't ever think HK is a small place. remember, HK is a small place with a lot of ppl in there. there has muchmuch more chance than here (toronto, dead city)

Well, lets say you can go to CA. you can entry siggraph. Do you think you have the talent to stand yourself out, infront of all other best animator from around the world?

Yes, CA has a lot of production house, studio that make big movies. There has ALOT of chances. but those chances are not for us, they beginners. NO, so stop complainning HK is a small place and don't say "奈何香港這一個地方我唔可以有發揮"

[captain]

I guess the john you are talking about is John Senaries, an old foreigner guy? He was the boss of Quantum Design, many early generation HK animators were working for him before, like Raman, Frankie, Andrew, etc... After closed Quantum, he's worked for Centro, Filmworkshop, HK Poly and some places...

I haven't worked with him before but he's a very nice guy...

[captain]

Dear Dick

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I understand that you are so keen on production of animation. However, i am sorry to tell you that the requirement of the student category of this programme is restricted to those obtaining BA courses or above in multimedia/animation.

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BA student only? What a f*cking stupid requirement!!! It's very typical HK government behaviour, they never know what they are doing....

[captain]

如果你知道他在背後說過你什麼，你可能會把那句互相尊重收回，哈哈哈，小心小心。

Is it really a good and honest behaviour to say something bad about someone nehind him? Or U just want to show U know many ppls in the industry?

[醬爆]

算啦 !! Dick Ma , 之前都叫左你等下啦.... , 無CG做又有乜大不了 ,
唔好再 "發下毒誓" , 唔好再埋怨 "付出"左幾多 , "收"幾少 , 唔好再計人地點對你啦 , ......如果咁都睇唔開 , 你點入呢行玩呀 ?

keep work on 你的 " 舞獅 " , 或者找 3D job 的 freelance .

而且 , 衣家全行都知你叫 "馬慶順 " , 參加過片頭創作大賽 , 個朵好響架啦 , 哈哈

老實講 ,如果你有料 ,真系唔怕冇工開

Captain 兄 :
唔好理呢條友的人說話吧 , 呢條友四處亂 !!

[古董動畫人]

我咁講，唔系代表我識好多人，我只系剛好認識這位阿 john 姐，其他野我唔講啦，不過我見阿馬生咁激動，仲似為阿 john 哥同佢互相尊重同欣賞，我知道實情又見佢好似有一腔熱誠咁，咪講兩句囉，等佢唔好比人利用咁解姐，並無亂講野，佢可以選擇唔信我講o既野，我無所謂，但時間會證明一切。

[Cyber Oxygen]

唔系一定要做條幾分鍾或幾秒片出來先叫CG..
你可以將3D CG animation 溶合web design 方面..
如果你能把握到，唔系冇機會ar......

[zaptos]

Agreed...
You may convert your 3D anim into Shockwave or flash and integrate into your web design field to show your ability and still make your dream come true.
Please be reminded that production house should not be the only place to start. Maybe one day you get the ticket. Keep on your work at your leisure to equip yourself.

[al]

馬先生所言的,實在令人嘔心...什麼真心真意做動畫
如果真系想出名我提議你到中環裸跑一圈...包保見效.
要知道在這個圈默默工作的 ..大有人在 就甘加一個比賽
就想出位的話...你不如去選港姐啦...發夢無甘早呀細佬..!!!!

[Dick Ma]

我由此至終無要求出名喎....

我只是希望知道怎樣去加入這一個動畫行業.

講真,每一個人都想出名架,(包括我)

不過如果我連加入動畫行業的機會都無.我怎可以在動畫業打出名堂?

我可以忍耐地做其他范籌的工作架,但當我過了幾年之後再加入動畫業,而我的CV都仍是與動畫無關的時候,我就和其他有經驗的人比唔上了.

你的方法都得既,但我無必要令自己臭名遠播lor...

而我怪責的系RTHK放棄了我,使我唔可以接觸更加多關於動畫業的事情.

[moc]

馬兄,
唔知我可以講D乜來表達我支持你.
同時你根本不用理那D剩系識打沉你的人.
因為佢地連理想都無,機會恐怕比你更少.

我大約明白你參加這個比賽的心態.
因為本來我也在趕這個比賽,
不過去到3/4進度時就因某些個人理由終止了.
我最初心態都跟你差不多.
不過我就更想透過比賽給自己一個埋單計數的機會.


為咗份錢,為咗把口,為咗生活.我覺現在你應該找份工囉,
CG好,動畫好,唔代表一切,我覺只有系財政穩定時,
自己先可以在無壓力下干自己的創作.
暫時放低現在這口怨氣,
現在你無名無性,
人家根本不會理你講話內容,
私底下努力,
試諗下他日你有返咁上下名氣.
真系放個放屁都響D啦.

[鬼]

馬先生要入行大可以去 imagi見下丫，一般情況下他們都請你做trainee，但六千蚊人工你接受嗎? 能生活嗎? 你不介意的話便能找到入行機會，不要太期望一個比賽能給你什麼???機會不是等就有的!