《Beowulf》Trailer

[ZU]

Enjoy~
http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/beowulf/

[h2o]

立眼睇真系會以為系真人做, cg 景, 類似《300》個種, 睇真d 先知系全 3d 做, Sony Pictures Imageworks 真系勁.

男人面相比較粗糙, 多d details 容易覺得真, 但系一睇女角就明顯系 cg, 就算出動到 3D 界中的性感女神 Angelina Jolie 都於事無補.

anyway 呢套 Beowulf 既故事, 應該唔會好似以前既 final fantasy 咁差.


Beowulf 中譯 貝奧武甫 或 貝奧武夫, 完成於西元八世紀的英雄敘事長詩. 背景跟 北歐神話很相似, 都是發生於 Scandinavian.
J. R. R. Tolkien 對此敘事長詩的故事, 文學及語言極為欣賞. 創作 魔戒時, 也不諱言從 Beowulf 中得到不少靈感.

如對 Beowulf 既內容有興趣的話, 可以睇下 wiki 中既故事大綱
http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E8%B2%9D% ... 6%E5%A4%AB

[milkboy]

嘩~呢個全CG夠堅，值得講嚇，CGTalk都有較多討論。LightStage應該系Sony專利，我估“造人”個part已經唔系最難克服，Scan同Cap一定可以好真啦
反而想睇佢點造衫，衣摺要夠復雜同自然加有厚度，非常有難度。“衫”好緊要架，系人物第二靈魂，(因為人不能隨便忍受光脫脫既肉體，伴隨動作，容易想到AV，無曬靈魂)，第二系頭發，唔講都知。我認為呢兩點先系uncanny valley。
PolarExpress個時做得一般，MonsterHouse時根本冇去造，原來留番曬d技術喺呢部。

[stantang]

I'm not sure if Sony bought the LightStage technology or not, they said they used a system built based on the LightStage for Spiderman 3. They did funded many of Debevec's projects though.

Bonus: starwars kind of 3d display
http://gl.ict.usc.edu/research/3DDisplay/

PS: just read the Light Stage 6 a bit more, it said "For commercial use of this data or the Light Stage itself, please contact the USC Office of Technology Licensing". I guess you can use LS technology for free for any non commerical projects. Of course given that you can built the whole system yourself. Any students want to take on that?

[dreiyip]

立眼睇真系會以為系真人做, cg 景, 類似《300》個種, 睇真d 先知系全 3d 做, Sony Pictures Imageworks 真系勁.

男人面相比較粗糙, 多d details 容易覺得真, 但系一睇女角就明顯系 cg, 就算出動到 3D 界中的性感女神 Angelina Jolie 都於事無補.

anyway 呢套 Beowulf 既故事, 應該唔會好似以前既 final fantasy 咁差.


Beowulf 中譯 貝奧武甫 或 貝奧武夫, 完成於西元八世紀的英雄敘事長詩. 背景跟 北歐神話很相似, 都是發生於 Scandinavian.
J. R. R. Tolkien 對此敘事長詩的故事, 文學及語言極為欣賞. 創作 魔戒時, 也不諱言從 Beowulf 中得到不少靈感.

如對 Beowulf 既內容有興趣的話, 可以睇下 wiki 中既故事大綱
http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E8%B2%9D% ... 6%E5%A4%AB

oh..大開眼界了.

[stantang]

...一睇女角就明顯系 cg, 就算出動到 3D 界中的性感女神 Angelina Jolie 都於事無補...

I in fact think the other way... What's the point to create all these real life actors in CG when you can just shoot them in live? Sorry I just can't understand the logical behind all these. Oh, I do have one word for this, "technical masturbation" (ok, two words...) I actually think the CG version of Jolie is hotter than the real one, which could be the only thing draws my attention.

[Stormtroopar]

...一睇女角就明顯系 cg, 就算出動到 3D 界中的性感女神 Angelina Jolie 都於事無補...

I in fact think the other way... What's the point to create all these real life actors in CG when you can just shoot them in live? Sorry I just can't understand the logical behind all these. Oh, I do have one word for this, "technical masturbation" (ok, two words...) I actually think the CG version of Jolie is actually hotter than the real one, which could be the only think draw my attention.

Interesting you say that... Actually the body of Angelina Jolie in Beowulf is not her body. They used another russian woman model that has an even more curvy ("better") body as the basis of Angelina's body for the movie. So besides the head, its not exactly Angelina.. but doesn't matter, just a movie and a made up character, the director can do what he wants.

Simon

[stantang]

Interesting you say that... Actually the body of Angelina Jolie in Beowulf is not her body. They used another russian woman model that has an even more curvy ("better") body as the basis of Angelina's body for the movie. So besides the head, its not exactly Angelina.. but doesn't matter, just a movie and a made up character, the director can do what he wants.

Simon

That explains it! Her face looks much smoother and symmetrical, lips are fuller (is that even possible? ) which gives her a younger and sexier look than the "orginial". I can't see much of the body (damn...) so can't comment on that.

Let me make this clear, the work done by SPI is amazing and pushed the boundry of CGI. Very nice work done by the artists in SPI. I agree with what Simon said, director can do what he wants as long as the studio supports him, it's his vision and that's the thing I had doubt.

[CraZ3D]

同意 呢個 CG Angelina 比真人更靚 ~~
大部份既 shot 都好真 , 就咁睇就正過 Polar Express 果期好多 ..

Stormtroopar 仲有無料透路一下 ?
例如你有無"指導"一下個 russian model .(kidding)...


P.S. 幾位 01 年既會員都系度講野..真系令人感動~~~

[Marco]

唉... 外國都有人開始 mocap cloth 同肌肉o既彈性 lor
又見過有人寫 shader 落個實物o度 tim...

人地可能真系有咁高科技去做到全CG... 但駛唔駛用咁多錢去做呢 d 效果呀!!?
駛o左咁多錢套戲真系會好睇咁多咩?

我反而會諗點去寫 d image processor 搞到 d 真人似假...

[contaxnikon]

完全戇居。
完全唔欣賞。

要做真人唔拍真人，走去做cg。

cg 應該系去幫助/實現現實拍唔到既野，而唔系咁玩

諗呢樣野出黎個個人簡直白癡，

可能響佢眼中以後乜野都唔駛拍架喇

所有optical 裝置包括video 菲林機相機乜野佢都視為垃圾，

同朋友去旅行/見到靚女，朋友想映低佢，佢可能會話︰映咩丫！ren 出黎咪得lor！]

技術水平高系好事，但唔系做d 咁戇居既野lor。

有冇人話到比我聽呢套野除左賣弄technique 之外，呢件野有咩存在價值？

[dreiyip]

可能就系為左顯示下自己既cg技術, 市場策略掛?

唔, 套戲好唔好睇, 做要睇埋個script同個director先知, 我都唔肯定佢收唔收得, 不過能夠制造市場話題就一定ga la..

希望唔好曬左d cg la..

[CraZ3D]

...
其實家下d電影 ..even 搵真人拍 , 其他都系全 CG黎架喇 ..

可能大導演覺得..反正有錢...咪試下 law ....
好過成日拍d 小動物 扮人講野....

其實有乜所謂....作為觀眾..多個選擇....

[milkboy]

做到stylized或者怪獸就冇人嘈，但一用CG造“接近真人既物體”，會有部份人坐立不安，鬼佬尤甚，我諗系同佢地既信仰有關。因為佢地認為人必定要由神創造，才有“合法”地位。事實系以前好多大片已經用左Digital Stunt拍部分鏡頭，亦都唔需要俾觀眾知，真系斬左都冇奏......
有冇可能Angelina Jolie個Boby已經走左樣，好肉酸，就用Russian Model個身。因為電影本身就系幻想嚟，由始至終都要俾觀眾甜美回憶，只有咁樣做法。將來既野真系可能唔駛多實拍，不過唔講太長遠........技術同內容並冇沖突，但我認為要創造多d可能性，除左要睇書之外~仲要靠CG。

[h2o]

Paul Debevec 應該自己 keep 番專利權既, 佢一直都系以 senior supervisor 名義同公司合作. King Kong 呢套戲佢都有同 weta 合作, 當時系用 light stage2.

今年 siggraph 都有呢位大師既 papers, 同 light stage 最有關系就系呢份, 裡面仲有一d lightstage 1 到 6 既資料添

Rapid Acquistion of Specular and Diffuse Normal Maps from Polarized Spherical Gradient Illumination:
http://gl.ict.usc.edu/research/FaceScanning


sorry 講左d 好 technical 既野添, 一提起 Paul Debevec, 我相信d lighting & rendering TD 會好興奮